97 points by user_7832 12 hours ago | 18 comments
[–] manytimesaway 12 hours ago
That maker list is unusable. It's not sorted in any way, contains duplicates (MOS Technology & Commodore CSG are the same), and would gain from reorganizing some brands (gathering Nintendo CPUs together, for instance).
[–] lindnertim 1 hour ago
I know of some that are freely available but are missing. Has anyone figured out how to get word to them?
[–] josh-wrale 10 hours ago
Have people tried training models to decode these photographs into code?
[–] amelius 9 hours ago
How would you do that if there's like 60 layers of metal conductors over the silicon substrate?
[–] josh-wrale 9 hours ago
Fair. I guess it would be necessary to CT scan them, like the Vesuvius Challenge
[–] dgfl 8 hours ago
Not sure if regular tomography would work, but this has been done at high enough resolution with some fancier techniques (ptychography): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07615-6
I would imagine this is of decent interest to people reverse engineering chip designs, or doing failure analysis, so it’s possible someone might actually be trying this at scale.
[–] Arubis 6 hours ago
You can destructively deprocess dies, removing a layer at a time and imaging at each layer. 20ish years ago you could still do this with a polishing wheel and a fine slurry; don’t know if that’s still viable.
[–] throwaway198846 9 hours ago
Computer, enhance!
[–] kkotak 9 hours ago
We need two people on the keyboard at the same time to enahnce.
[–] elictronic 9 hours ago
It’s like taking a picture of someone’s house to determine their current medical diagnosis.
Garbage in, it’ Herpes.
[–] giancarlostoro 9 hours ago
Could have just said to determine where all the pipes are but you know, you could go all the way to herpes I suppose… :)
[–] YoshiRulz 6 hours ago
https://github.com/giulioz/mmo-chip described in talk https://youtu.be/5211iYEqnzo?t=44m30s
[–] omoikane 5 hours ago
See also Ken Shirriff's blog, which has die photos plus detailed explanation of how things work.
[–] karim79 10 hours ago
Amazing site. I've a friend who is an aspiring oil painter and I just sent him this link. I can't wait to see the results!
[–] superjan 9 hours ago
Here is one more (intel 4004)
https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/none/path/s674...
[–] source99 8 hours ago
[–] femto 3 hours ago
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL6322148W/High_Tech?edition=k...
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/334312859146
[–] Integer 5 hours ago