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points by BeetleB 1 day ago | 0 comments
> The Valley doesn’t understand how fed up normal people are with AI.

I occasionally hang out with normal (non-tech) people. They're either agnostic to it or they love it. None hates it, unless they have some reason to think they're going to lose their job.

HN is that one place where I routinely hear negative sentiments about LLMs.

[–] antihipocrat 1 day ago
Here it seems to depend on the topic - discussions surrounding how to get the most tokens/$ are positive with most offering ideas on how to improve their workflows. Topics that invite discussion about big labs' hypocrisy regarding IP theft/copyright infringement and attempts at regulatory capture or rent seeking behavior are more negative.

These topics attract different people, but same people can hold the two views that aren't necessarily in conflict - I am forced to use LLMs at work, and within the industry there is no alternative. I also derive a lot of benefit using it for personal projects. I would also be very wary of monetizing any of these personal projects due to being completely blind as to how/where the code used to train the models came from.. and I am surprised how slow the legal system has been to address this issue, it's the wild west at the moment.

[–] ben_w 1 day ago
I think groups have become self-sorting on this topic. Some furry groups I'm in are fine with it, some loathe it.

I tried suggesting to one group who hated it that they could go to a nearby "PauseAI" protest, the reaction was mostly "Bah, they only want to pause it, not to end it!"

[–] timmytokyo 16 hours ago
You must not have children. If you know any high-school age children, you'll find a lot of them absolutely loathe AI.
[–] bryanlarsen 1 day ago
Do you talk to students? Every student I've talked to has a passionate opinion about it in one direction, almost all hate.
[–] BeetleB 1 day ago
Are these non-tech or non-engineering students?

(Honest question - I don't talk to them so I don't know).

[–] bryanlarsen 21 hours ago
Science freshmen and high school.
[–] steveBK123 1 day ago
Completely opposite for me. Have mostly non-tech family across a variety of industries. Finance, accounting, education, pharmaceuticals.

Everyone got the "use this or we will kill you" speech from management, while finding its actual usefulness (they aren't coders and weren't using it for code!) to be questionable vs the hype.

Further a lot of people got the "you better AI-max or-else" ultimatums in Q1 only to get the "you idiots why are you using so much AI this costs money" by Q2/Q3 whiplash.

[–] BeetleB 1 day ago
I can understand that. None of the ones in my circles have gotten any kind of mandate to use it a lot of work.