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points by WalterBright 2 days ago | 0 comments

How is that going to work if you interview Bob for X task at Y pay, but discover Bob would be much better suited for A task that is worth more salary? What if Bob didn't meet the requirements for X, but would be a perfect fit for B task that is not worth as much salary?

[–] fpoling 2 days ago

The requirement is to publish either minimal salary or salary range for the position from the advertisement. If company has several positions available then specific minimal salaries should be given for each.

[–] WalterBright 2 days ago

Sometimes companies create a specific position for an interviewee after getting to know the candidate. For example, a candidate might have an unexpected unusual skill.

[–] pixelatedindex 2 days ago

What does that have to do with providing a salary range for a particular job posting? That specific position created should also have a range - publish that. Normally you have to interview other candidates for this position too.

[–] WalterBright 1 day ago

That would be making it difficult to adapt the job to fit the person.

[–] pixelatedindex 1 day ago

Unless you’re some VP/Director/Distinguished Eng/C-level etc, this doesn’t happen in practice. Those jobs don’t follow normal job posting rules anyway, they’re usually sought out.

99.99% of the time, I doubt the job is ever adapted for the person. They come in with that skillset and are usually expected to grow and meet the needs of the other job areas.

[–] troupo 1 day ago

So, you want the 1 in 10 000 (likely 1 in 1 000 000) hyperspecific job posting to affect the rules for the rest?

[–] aspect0545 2 days ago

And nothing stops them from doing that

[–] WalterBright 2 days ago

And then the candidate sues claiming bait and switch.

[–] pjc50 1 day ago

The candidate isn't going to complain if you give them _more_.

[–] ChrisRR 1 day ago

Why would you sue for that? There's no contract in place

[–] kakacik 1 day ago

And in any normal court they will lose since its a different position and they agreed (paper trail) for that switch. Or they could be just let go if company is too careful. Not that such situation happens often in real world, I never even heard about even one.

If they would sue it would also burn their professional creds permanently, nobody sane would ever want to hire such a problematic person.

[–] AngryData 1 day ago

Nothing is stopping them from paying more than they advertised or hiring them for another position.

[–] voidUpdate 1 day ago

Then you tell Bob about how he would be much better suited for job A or B, explain how the pay is less, and if he's cool with it, directly put his CV into the pile for that job. If he's not cool with it, shake his hand and wish him a good day

[–] WalterBright 1 day ago

What if there was no job posting with a defined salary for A or B?

Sounds like lose-lose.

[–] voidUpdate 1 day ago

If you're not hiring for that job, why are you telling Bob that he'd be really well suited there?

[–] ChrisRR 1 day ago

Well then they'd be interviewing for a different job. I assume it's no different at any other company where they actually do include the salary range

[–] postexitus 1 day ago

Cancel the job posting - advertise again for A task, Bob already passed some of the stages, maybe see a few more candidates for A task and boom you are in business.

[–] skew-aberration 2 days ago

Presumably the law will be written to account for advertised role != assigned role, but it can't account for gaming the system by never hiring exactly the advertised position.

[–] WalterBright 2 days ago

Sounds like a recipe for a lot of time and money wasted in court.

[–] jimbob45 1 day ago

Ideally they reapply if it’s a lesser role and the pay is lower than the previously posted minimum.

[–] specialdragon 2 days ago

I suspect that kind of bait and switch will become the norm.

[–] WalterBright 2 days ago

You can always walk away if you don't like the company's offer.

[–] ElProlactin 2 days ago

If companies engage in behavior intended to deceive, they are wasting people's time, which has an economic cost >$0.

[–] ahoef 2 days ago

Nothing says you can't negotiate, does it?