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points by Jackobrien 2 days ago | 0 comments
The best open models today have been “good enough” to do most knowledge work for a few months. This might be the first US one good enough too. That’s a big deal.

Open weight US based Opus 5.5 within 12 months.

[–] kadoban 2 days ago
> Open weight US based Opus 5.5 within 12 months.

Seems unlikely. Maybe open weight at all near there? That'd be great.

[–] wolttam 2 days ago
People say this about the frontier every time, and the open models catch up in a matter of months every time.
[–] kadoban 2 days ago
The open models catch up, the _US_ open models catch up much more slowly. Different incentives and cultures.
[–] p-e-w 2 days ago
Why does that seem unlikely? The difference between frontier and open weights has been much less than 12 months for a while now.
[–] satvikpendem 2 days ago
US open weights are much worse, way more than 12 months apart compared to frontier.
[–] kadoban 2 days ago
> Why does that seem unlikely? The difference between frontier and open weights has been much less than 12 months for a while now.

Frontier and open weights? Yes.

Frontier and _US_ open weights? No.

I'd expect a US open weights provider to suddenly get bought or go non-open if they get near Opus 5.5 anyway.

[–] walrus01 2 days ago
Things have been remarkably "not terrible" since approximately the release of Laguna S 2.1 a while back in early summer 2026, which is now outdated within the past 6 month time frame by other, better non CN open weight models.

I'm not saying that any of them are to the level as a deepseek v4.1 flash 1017 or similar but they're catching up. The most recent huge mistral release is also grounds for an optimistic view.

[–] npc99 2 days ago
Inception Mercury 3 and Particle-1's model are also good.

(I am assuming Inception is an American company, not sure TBH)

[–] ray__ 2 days ago
Agree, Mercury 3 is one of my favorite models right now...the speed is such a quality of life improvement.
[–] Bluestein 2 days ago
May I add Poolside (Laguna S) to this? Used them extensively during their free trial (sadly now apparently over).-
[–] johnshahbazian 2 days ago
For my own purposes, I found Mercury Decide to be excellent. Better than Jev at what I threw at it. Inception did a really great job with it.
[–] flipbrad 2 days ago
Thanks for your review, 15 day old HN account that likes praising Mercury services.
[–] johnshahbazian 1 day ago
I'm not affiliated with them at all. yeah I like them, and yeah I like to compare decision models at the moment.

Don't believe me? Google my name.

[–] martincsweiss 2 days ago
Really? I'm surprised. What do you use it for?

My read on Diffusion LLMs has been that it's cool tech, but only useful for things like like code autocomplete or editing a block of text.

They don't beat autoregressive models on quality per compute, assuming you are serving lots of users and can batch requests.

[–] npc99 2 days ago
I just use it for normal coding stuff.

It's not as good as the current frontier, to be fair. I don't use it to help me think through architecture, for example. But I have found to work well for at least like half of coding tasks once architecture and patterns are in place. Its advantage is that it's very very fast.

[–] serf 2 days ago
MoA schemes that use proposers/task-separation/supervisory roles can still benefit from very fast diffusion models like mercury, the overall speed doesn't have to be bottle-necked by the slowest model -- that depends on the arrangement it's deployed in.

but to your point , yeah diffusion models can be kind of brain dead without proper coaxing.

my ideal arrangement is a smarter/bigger model supervising lots of proposals from diffusion models. The diffusion models spit out a big proposal each, the bigger model can vet something as minor as the headline or filename for each proposal, time still ends up being saved.

[–] freakynit 2 days ago
Sorry to put it bluntly, but, Mercury is sh*t in comparison. And I have genuinely tried a few times to use it since the speed is so good. But nop.. it just isn't there.
[–] josh-wrale 2 days ago
Muse Glimmer is pretty good.
[–] BOOSTERHIDROGEN 2 days ago
Could you give some examples what makes them good, thanks
[–] gigatexal 2 days ago
That’d be the inflection point I’m waiting for!
[–] agentdev001 2 days ago
I give it 2.