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points by vrighter 12 hours ago | 0 comments

free as in freedom for humans. machines neither want nor need freedom

That's like saying you're free to build your own shed, as long as you don't use hammers. Hammers don't need nor want freedom.

[–] philipallstar 12 hours ago

Machines are tools used by humans. Codeberg has banned a certain class of tool used by humans.

[–] vrighter 12 hours ago

as is their right, and the wish of a very significant chunk of their users. you're still free to use other platforms.

[–] philipallstar 2 hours ago

I don't know what this means. Is close source software open because you're free to use other software?

[–] r_lee 11 hours ago

"free to use other platforms" doesn't mean that Codeberg is a "free" platform.

might as well say Google is a free Git alternative because you're free to use another one since you can't use it for git

[–] Shish2k 12 hours ago

I wonder how much internet-argument bandwidth would be saved if we used different words for "freedom from" vs "freedom to", instead of putting both things on a single scale and then arguing over which is "more free"...

[–] 1718627440 12 hours ago

It's a matter of perspective and what you perceive to be the default. Freedom from prevention of X is Freedom to not do X.

[–] bheztio 11 hours ago

So if I'm not free to use a hammer, that's actually not a constriction of my freedom because "the hammer neither wants nor needs freedom"?

[–] aabhay 12 hours ago

Speak for yourself

[–] vrighter 12 hours ago

i spoke for nobody. neither myself nor you or anyone else. and machines can't speak or hold opinions, so i can't speak for them either