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points by williamcotton 8 hours ago | 0 comments
Pro tip: light that cigar with a flame thrower and use ChatGPT Work to create and update Word docs. Never open it again! It’s good at formatting tables, moving images around without the entire document exploding into shards, redlines and comments!
[–] gamblor956 5 hours ago
Pro tip: if you're a lawyer and plan to stay a lawyer, edit the Word document yourself or expect to spend 99% of the time "saved" reviewing it and making corrections when it didn't actual do what you wanted and it created a bunch of facts or law.

The first year that commercial LLMs became available, a lawyer could plausibly claim they didn't know any better that an LLM would fuck things up. Now, it's an automatic sanction. In CA, the minimum penalty is $5000. Risking your license and having a black mark that all future employers will see isn't worth the few minutes you'll save degrading your skills by outsourcing your work to a black box.

[–] williamcotton 2 hours ago
I’m talking about mechanically editing a Word document, not generating complaints. You can tell it to CRUD paragraphs, images and tables verbatim.
[–] skinfaxi 5 hours ago
> The first year that commercial LLMs became available, a lawyer could plausibly claim they didn't know any better that an LLM would fuck things up

Is that the case? As an officer of the court, lawyers have a duty to be truthful. Putting forth an argument you didn't even read would seem to be abdicating that duty regardless of the novelty of the tool.

[–] gamblor956 5 hours ago
In 2023 we didn't know that LLMs would make things up even if you asked them to limit themselves to actual facts/laws/etc.
[–] skinfaxi 4 hours ago
Does that change the duty of the attorney? Paralegals can make stuff up too. Chatgpt was released in Nov 2022 and the first case of sanctions was brought in early 2023 so it doesn't seem like it was ever acceptable.