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points by cosmotic 13 hours ago | 0 comments

Java desktop was only ugly if you chose for it to be. It was pretty minimal effort to get native look and feel. Nothing built in electron looks native. If we're accepting custom interface using electron, that was doable with Java too.

[–] NetMageSCW 6 hours ago

Why is it no one ever seems to do it then? I have never seen a Java app look or act native on Windows.

[–] dingaling911 3 hours ago

Eclipse

[–] cyberax 22 minutes ago

It used SWT, which was a thin wrapper over native controls.

[–] sdthjbvuiiijbb 3 hours ago

I haven't used Eclipse in a decade, so maybe it's changed, but back then it was very much a Java UI, not a native feeling one.

[–] dingaling911 2 hours ago

I remember the Java UI, but at some point they switched to a version of Swing that made it look more native, at least on Linux.

[–] threetonesun 9 hours ago

JetBrains IDEs arguably look/behave better than VSCode as far as a native app goes. I wouldn't say either look great on MacOS but a truly "native feeling" Mac app is usually quite different than a Linux/Windows equivalent.

[–] pjmlp 9 hours ago

Long time ago, Apple had a proper OS X Swing L&F, when you could do Cocoa in Java, and there was still some uncertainty if Objective-C would be embraced by Mac OS development community.

[–] johnny22 3 hours ago

I much prefer vscode to intellij