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points by soraminazuki 20 hours ago | 0 comments

See, this is the issue. Companies like Anthropic are relentlessly hyping and pressuring everyone to inject their tech everywhere, without any care for the consequences. This privacy violation isn't an isolated incident. This is the usual Silicon Valley playbook, and the reckless way and speed in which it's being pushed out now is already causing damage.

If that wasn't bad enough, they're stealing and depriving everyone of critical resources like RAM, electricity, natural resources [1], public land, and taxpayer money.

All this for what exactly? Most of this isn't based at all on current demand, but rather the idea that they can make much better use of resources in the future than the people that actually need them right now. Yet, cheerleaders at HN downplay or deny that anything bad is going on.

This is the grifting. They're selling hypothetical demand while robbing everyone else of the actual resources that we all rely on. These companies are acting like the scammers at Wall Street who caused the 2008 financial crisis, except that the scale and scope of the harm is so much worse.

Your argument is akin to the scammers cheering for themselves in the lead-up to the financial crisis. "See? We're making it possible for people to afford homes, but you ungrateful people are calling affordable housing grifting."

That's gross.

Even the Wall Street scammers didn't publicly display this level of arrogance. Because at least, the superficial benefit was affordable housing, not the joy of rich assholes being able to play with their shiny new toy.

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2026/...

[–] weird-eye-issue 20 hours ago

> They're selling hypothetical demand

Sorry, I don't understand what is the "hypothetical demand" you identified in my comment you replied to? There is real demand for AI. I use it daily for years and my usage has only been increasing as its become more competent and I've learned how to use it better. If you think that is BS and its all hypothetical, you quite simply just don't know what you are talking about.

> Your argument is akin to the Wall Street scammers cheering for themselves in the lead-up to the financial crisis. "See? We're making it possible for people to afford homes, but you ungrateful people are calling affordable housing grifting."

What argument are you referring to? Can you specifically quote what you are talking about that I said because I don't understand. Just seems like you wanted to find a way to bring this back to a previous bubble and call me a scammer simply for not being anti-AI.

[–] soraminazuki 19 hours ago

So ignore, deny, downplay it is. Reading the comments here sure is a quick way to drive sane people to depression.

[–] weird-eye-issue 10 hours ago

Okay great argument. Change happens, go to your therapist if you need to.

[–] soraminazuki 8 hours ago

You really proved my point about how you people regard anything that puts LLMs in a negative light as an attack on yourselves. As long as you get to play with your shiny new toy, you're fine, or even cheer for, the fact that a handful of tech billionaires are funneling billions into our political systems, seizing and hoarding finite resources all for themselves, and doing a pump and dump on the global economy in order to do so. And the rest of the world is supposed to be thanking you for that. It's a cult.

But I agree with you on one point. Voters demanded change, and it's not in favor of the enablers who think any of the above is okay. And childish behavior like trying to call people mentally ill without getting flagged will not buy you any sympathy.

[–] weird-eye-issue 8 hours ago

I tried to have a real discussion with you but you wouldn't even attempt that in good faith. I asked you to clarify your points and you totally ignored me. It's like you are talking to somebody else. Now you are suddenly bringing politics into this like a literal bot.

This isn't something US politics can just put back in the bottle and you are naive for thinking this. If it gets heavily regulated in the US it won't be long before everyone is just using Chinese models. And then what? Will we ban Chinese models? That strategy and approach didn't work so well with semiconductors back in the day.

Also I didn't bring up mental illness first, hope you're doing fine.

[–] soraminazuki 7 hours ago

> I tried to have a real discussion with you but you wouldn't even attempt that in good faith. I asked you to clarify your points and you totally ignored me.

Why is every accusation a confession with you people? I clarified multiple times what the issue is, and every single time you've either ignored, denied, or downplayed. You pretend that the people being robbed of resources are just "resisting change," and are now even calling us "literal bots." If that's how you view people, no wonder you think it's "bad faith" to oppose the multi-trillion dollar levels of exploitation that's going on.

> Also I didn't bring up mental illness first

What I said was that unempathetic people are driving others mad. Very disingenuous of you to frame that as me inviting you to call me mentally ill. You have nothing but your own free will to blame for making that insult, and a responsible adult owns their decisions.

All of this highlights the lack of empathy even further.

> hope you're doing fine.

And you did it again. Calling people ill in a sarcastic way is your idea of a "real discussion"? No, that's petty and childish.

[–] weird-eye-issue 5 hours ago

Go back and look at our discussion.

I asked you very specific questions because I genuinely was trying to understand what points you were making and what argument you thought I was trying to make and you never addressed those very specific questions. If I ask you specific questions and then you completely ignore them that isn't really going to lead to a productive conversation. You are just letting emotion control you and you are justifying it by assuming that you are more empathetic than me which frankly isn't even relevant.

Another issue that makes having a discussion with you impossible is that you keep using the plural form of words like "you people" and "are now even calling us...". I am a singular person talking to you another singular person. Stop trying to put myself and yourself into buckets and extrapolate this conversation into things I never said just because people that you might think are similar to me have said in the past. I was calling you a literal bot for bringing up politics out of nowhere. I'm not talking about "you people" or anyone else, or any other situation, I'm only talking about you in that specific context. Stop extrapolating everything and putting words in my mouth. It's exhausting and even trying to have a conversation with you is simply not happening so I'm not going to reply further.