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points by pasc1878 17 hours ago | 0 comments

Sorry can you show a decent GUI app in Electron compared with a native one.

You show this by all your other comments on memory. The reason apps take memory is Electron.

Plus I prefer apps that behave like OS native apps not the reduced GUI of web apps.

VS Code is a perfectly fine and pretty performant app.

It has seen (major) optimization work, and it's still quite memory-heavy, although that's probably fine for a rich IDE. But it's not fine for many other apps.

[–] viraptor 8 hours ago

VSCode is absolutely not a rich IDE. It's a fancy text editor will extra plugins. Visual studio or IDEA are rich IDEs.

[–] afdbcreid 8 hours ago

With extensions it can be. And if it would be built on a custom GUI framework, it could not.

[–] viraptor 7 hours ago

Rich IDE is not something you achieve by slapping a few extensions on an editor. It's in the name - Integrated. It means that there's a GUI designer which is aware of local classes, inspector at runtime which can jump into the right areas of code, performance analysis that gets populated during runs, highlighting and compilation that's aware of the currently selected configuration, etc. There's an extension a few of those, but they're mostly independent and isolated.

[–] skydhash 6 hours ago

Codeblocks is an IDE. VSCode is pretty much on par in terms of features.

[–] viraptor 6 hours ago

It's a spectrum. I'd give codeblocks 25% of an IDE ;) But it will depend heavily on what you expect.

[–] denimnerd42 10 hours ago

Erich Gamma started VS Code (through Monaco). That's saying a lot about Erich Gamma and not a lot about Electron.

It's also had a ton of work done to make it performant. (Microsoft level resources)

[–] bigstrat2003 10 hours ago

No it isn't. It takes over 1 GB of memory just to open up a handful of source code files that each are under 1 MB in size (and which, for reference, Sublime can open with 300 MB used). It's an absolute pig.

[–] anthk 8 hours ago

Just compare Sidex (VS Code clone in Rust) vs vanilla VS Code.

https://github.com/Sidenai/sidex

[–] codazoda 16 hours ago

Probably at the edge of being a good example. I recently switched to zed because of how bloated VS Code is becoming. I think it gained it’s momentum by being small, but enshitification seems to come for all software.

[–] thunky 15 hours ago

Based on the hype I tried zed thinking it would feel amazing compared to vscode, and it just didn't.

[–] letrix 5 hours ago

What do you consider bloated on a VSCode install without any extensions?

[–] brettermeier 16 hours ago

I don't know your Standards, but VS Code feels very smooth.

[–] Jtarii 8 hours ago

lmfao no.

[–] kelseyfrog 16 hours ago

I volunteer as the arbiter of decency!