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points by fireant 21 hours ago | 0 comments
Doesn't that muddle intent of the original prompt? If the smarter model didn't understand your intent correctly, the dumber one sure won't and it rephrasing and expanding the prompt will just amplify it's misunderstanding, no?
[–] pletnes 17 hours ago
It could make sense to use a cheap model to decide if you need to run a long, high effort or otherwise costly effort. Then you can take many decisions at low cost, but think hard when it’s time to make an important decision.
[–] bluegatty 19 hours ago
You wouldnt normally use a dumb model as a personal agent to get a smarter model to do work, but you may make use of that mechanism in some kind of automation process.

But there are definitely cases.

GPT Pro is an absolutely spectacular model, that almost cannot be used without 'prompt help'. Or rather, it can only be effectively leveraged by very intricate prompting, which requires the help of another agent.

I typically use Claude Code to write prompts for GPT Pro , and cut and paste the prompt in, and let GPT Pro work for 20 minutes, then take the response back to Claude Code and work with Opus to consider the results.

Opus is 'dumber' (nominally) then GPT Pro.

[–] agentdev001 14 hours ago
What is GPT Pro?
[–] bluegatty 11 hours ago
GPT Pro is the pro setting on OAI's consume chat model. It is only available online or API.

It's branded as a separate model, but really it's like an 'ultrathinking' mode of OAI's model.

The details are not public but it's parallel test time compute and multi search, aka the model reasons along different vectors and compares answers.

If 'feels like' a smarter model, even though I'm pretty sure it's a synthetic variation of Astra.

It is by far the 'smartest model' if you were to benchmark it, and many of OAIs released were based on this.

There are few or no benchmark scores on it because it's not suitable for harness testing or coding, it's almost designed to be 'one shot' or 'few shot'.

It takes 8-25 to answer, and if you give it a sufficiently sophisticated prompt, it will think for 1 hour.

It requires OAI's 'pro' account aka the $200/month one.

It's the best open secret in AI, I can't recommend it enough.

[–] agentdev001 10 hours ago
Oh wow, as someone who prides themselves on my depth of knowledge on the OpenAI docs, im ashamed I didn't know about this! I figured that Pro was a deprecated feature post 5.6 family release. Didn't realize Mode:Pro was something you could do with 6 and 6.1, thanks!