i had astra route some ducting thru joists and beams and other crap and i was so surprised and rejoicing because it knocked it out of the park! this is sketchup pro. i’m not especially good at sketchup. i also had it do some plumbing and again it was good. i wanted proper slope on all the joints and pipes and if i needed to adjust a route- boy was that aggravating! but then asked astra and just sipped my pop.