If you need to run a five year old version of [PHP|Apache|Nginx|Caddy|whatever], Ubuntu is a solid bet. None of that "we need to update our configuration to a new format to solve a criticial CVE issue" nonsense, for much longer than Debian is offering free labour.
Debian has its own flaws, like its controversial patches, lack of real LTS releases, and lack of business contracts guaranteeing support directly from the source if you're a business.
I have yet to encounter any issues with either sudo-rs or their coreutils rewrite. From what I've come to expect from utcc.utoronto.ca, I'm not surprised they're using some obscure feature that Canonical chose to remove, though. I'm surprised they're even running Ubuntu.
[–] fn-mote 1 day ago
[–] jeroenhd 1 day ago
I'm also of the opinion that sometimes change is good. The Linux world is held back by design decisions and quirks coded into ancient operating systems that have long since died.
Luckily for the people on old Ubuntu versions, Ubuntu 24.04 without the sudo-rs rewrite will be supported until May 2034 or May 2039 if you pay up. The sudo-rs people have about 7-8 years to fix any problems that might exist before you have to think about doing `sudo do-release-upgrade`.
[–] Symbiote 1 day ago
[–] MaKey 1 day ago
[–] yallpendantools 1 day ago
The first time I tried this was the last time I tried. It was ca. 2012 on an Acer laptop that I personally configured to dual-boot. My memory is not to be trusted but
- the biggest problem for me was that it asked for a core dump/logfile, which I agreed to, but for some reason or another it could not produce/extract said debug info and I got stuck in a loop of whoopsie trying and failing.
- smaller grievance (I might be wrong) is that I had to create some account (Launchpad?) in order to report the bug. Why can't it be anonymous?!
Everytime I turned this Acer laptop on, there will be 2-3 such prompts from Ubuntu that something report-worthy went wrong. You learn to blend it out like the cookie consent dialogs but still annoying. Plus, everything is still perfectly usable so it does seem like the OS is just making a mountain out of a molehill.
[–] aezart 4 hours ago
- "why would anyone want that?"
- "that bug is not possible."
- "it's working as intended."
[–] Symbiote 1 day ago
The chown bug took 18 months to be fixed. The ls bug isn't fixed after 6 months. Sort was fixed in about 3 months.
There are hundreds of open bugs: https://github.com/uutils/coreutils/issues — the project clearly wasn't suitable for an LTS release.
[–] optionalsquid 23 hours ago
https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=coreutils
It's normal to find hundreds of open bugs in large open source projects
[–] collinfunk 14 hours ago
I really should close some of them, e.g., 8559, since Gnulib, which we depend on, doesn't support IRIX anymore since it is EOL.
I feel like this is just ignoring the issues raised in the post, or saying “well, I didn’t use those features so I don’t care”.
You personally not caring is ok. The distro not caring is generating some hate.