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points by michael1999 1 day ago | 0 comments
Every ecosystem on the planet besides recent settlements like Hawaii or Antarctica are co-evolved with human beings. "Pristine wildness" is almost always a myth.
[–] aaron425 1 day ago
That’s a strong assertion. It was less of a myth 200 years ago (prior to the Industrial Revolution) and even less of one further back.

People may have generally existed in these regions, but the scope of ecological impact & evolutionary pressure is more recent.

[–] anomaly_ 1 day ago
The Romans were deforesting the Mediterranean 2000 years ago. Aboriginal Australians continually burnt the land for 50,000 years creating the desert Australia you see today. Humans have been majorly changing the environment for a very long time.
[–] ctkhn 1 day ago
That's not totally true. The way we have lived since the 1950s has made a lot of difference. Even where people have lived for a long time, highways and major roads since 1950 in terms of danger are a step change (or two) compared to earlier roads and have essentially walled off areas from wildlife traveling between them.
[–] anfilt 1 day ago
The thing is a lot of these rural areas were farms before 1950 or if we got back further before even the Meji Restoration in Japan.

It's actually more of a recent phenomenon that a lot these small villages and towns now becoming basically vacant in Japan.

People have been in Japan for many thousands of years at this point.

[–] mschuster91 1 day ago
> "Pristine wildness" is almost always a myth.

Which is half true, half not.

If you re-introduce certain keystone species, the rest follows automatically - the most well-known and well-studied example being the wolf in Yellowstone [1].

[1] https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-r...