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points by ajuc 1 day ago | 0 comments
Good. Either the state controls the oligarchs or oligarchs control the state.
[–] JumpCrisscross 1 day ago
Or, get this, no oligarchs.
[–] ajuc 1 day ago
First you need to control the ones that are there.
[–] JumpCrisscross 1 day ago
> First you need to control the ones that are there

No, you don't. In fact that's exactly the wrong approach because it recognizes them as institutions.

Tax them. Reduce money in politics. Investigate them if they did something wrong.

Note that I'm using the term oligarch precisely. Not just rich people. Rich people holding direct political power. You don't control that without empowering it, you remove the direct political power.

[–] xboxnolifes 1 day ago
> Tax them. Reduce money in politics. Investigate them if they did something wrong.

This is controlling them.

[–] 10111001 1 day ago
>> Tax them. Reduce money in politics. Investigate them if they did something wrong.

> This is controlling them.

I think it's meant to remove them from that class.

Controlling: telling them what to do, implementing policy through their power.

Eliminating: removing their power until they're not oligarchs.

[–] JumpCrisscross 1 day ago
> This is controlling them

It's really not. Putin controls his oligarchs. Denmark doesn't have oligarchs. (It does have nobility and billionaires.)

[–] ajuc 1 day ago
Putin is an oligarch.

And for US it's too late, it already has oligarchs.

[–] JumpCrisscross 15 hours ago
> Putin is an oligarch

Who is Putin’s peer in Russia? An oligarchy is a small group of peers.

[–] ajuc 1 day ago
> Tax them. Reduce money in politics. Investigate them if they did something wrong.

That's how you control them, yes. I don't understand what you are disagreeing with?