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points by dilap 1 day ago | 0 comments

Old enough to be haters, I guess.

Mostly I've seen younger kids love it. I was at the park and a little girl saw a Cybertruck pull up -- "Look, Dad, it's from the future!"

I think Cybertruck is probably ultimately a failure, but the amount of hate it gets when they are at least trying to push things outside of the normal makes me sad. The amount of negativity towards anything new that's not perfect is insane.

[–] AshleyGrant 1 day ago

Look, there is "trying to push things outside of the normal" and then there is "completely misunderstanding the purpose of a half-ton truck." I say this despite that fact that the Cybertruck, from a size perspective, it straddles the line between half-ton and 3/4-ton, and it is a complete utter non-starter as a 3/4 ton for several reasons.

If the CyberTruck were the size of a Honda Ridgeline or Ford Maverick, I think truck folks (who skew conservative) would look at it a lot less derisively. There are entire swathes of the half-ton truck market that the Cybertruck simply cannot compete in due to a seeming fundamental misunderstanding by the design team of what the vehicle needs to be capable of and amenable to. This is especially evident in the fleet/work truck market where the unibody design immediately shuts out folks who need to put an aftermarket bed replacement (think plumbers, welders, and other trades).

It straddles the 1/2 to 3/4 ton segment in terms of specs, but it is fundamentally impossible to tow a 5th wheel or gooseneck trailer with a Cybertruck.

Again, there is "think different" and there is "misunderstand the market."

[–] dilap 1 day ago

Yeah, a swing and a miss for sure.

[–] latexr 1 day ago

> the amount of hate it gets when they are at least trying to push things outside of the normal makes me sad. The amount of negativity towards anything new that's not perfect is insane.

A significant portion of the hate they get is for what they represent and who they’re from, not because they’re “new” or “different” or “not perfect”.

[–] wahnfrieden 1 day ago

Not only was it not perfect, it was a total failure - they are stopping all production

[–] plagiarist 1 day ago

There is so much you are hiding behind "not perfect" and I think you know that.

[–] rdiddly 1 day ago

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[–] dilap 1 day ago

You guys are living in a different universe. I can get hating Elon, but mediocre? Really? Completely absurd.

[–] rdiddly 1 day ago

I mean the things you acknowledge people hating him for probably overlap considerably with the things I'm thinking of when declaring him mediocre. To pick just one: Think of the boring CEOs who work hard to instill and drive an inclusive culture at their companies, and who make sure their people are treated as human beings. You haven't heard of any, because they're not out there trying to be an entertainment personality.

[–] oortoo 1 day ago

Outside of hoarding wealth, I haven't seen much evidence that Elon is particularly good at anything.

[–] dilap 1 day ago

What wealth did he hoard? His wealth is all in his ownership of companies he lead to great success.

[–] kattagarian 1 day ago

He just spend 400 million dollars on the election, half of this in texas alone.

[–] sejje 1 day ago

Spending is the opposite of hoarding

[–] dilap 1 day ago

He doesn't seem very politicallly...effective.

But anyway, I don't think it's fair to say he "hoarded" wealth. It's all from ownership in companies he led, or selling stock in said companies. It's not like, I don't know, post-soviet Russian oligarchs or Carlos Slim or something, who you could all reasonably say were hoarding wealth.