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points by StableAlkyne 1 day ago | 0 comments
They are very good research assistants.

I would never trust an AI to make a scientific conclusion, but they're very good at some things:

- Plotting with natural language: "Create a scatter plot of column A versus column B, log scale Y and use stars sized by column C." Every plotting library (except maybe ggplot2 / plotnind) sucks, and the boilerplate never gets less tedius.

- Literature search, e.g. "Have there been any peer reviewed papers where they applied X method to Y domain"

- Complex visualization, e.g. "Make a self contained HTML file with a 3D interactive visualization of this graph. Add ball and spring position optimization and let me move nodes"

- Trying random stuff that would normally be too time consuming to be worth it, eg "Here is a dataset. Try regression methods A, B, and C and report a table." In this case, usually it will screw up and overfit, but it's a good smoke test.

Note how in all of these, it's being used for tedious things that provide some value, but ultimately they are only providing information to make a decision on.

Granted, I would like to have a research assistant I could train, but if your company will not create a position then there is not much you can do.

[–] ozgung 1 day ago
Yes to all but I have trouble using them effectively for my research side projects or Kaggle competitions. Claude Code/Codex designs and runs experiments quickly, invalidates my initial idea using some obscure criteria than changes direction, and after long hours and days of experiments we end up with poor results. There must be a better agentic workflow for research.
[–] StableAlkyne 1 day ago
> invalidates my initial idea using some obscure criteria than changes direction

You might be giving it too much leeway.

Opus and Fable are more trustworthy, but even today I find they very quickly go off the rails for research tasks if I don't give them short chunks of work.

They're not ready for prime time automation of research (and before someone mentions the math results, that required absurd amounts of computation time and has immediate feedback in the form of Lean)

[–] tensor 1 day ago
Yes, I find DeepSeek can be very precious about its ideas and I have to insist multiple times to do the experiments I ask for despite it thinking them not worth doing. Often my experiments do give good results and I swear the model gets salty about it.

I guess when you ask these things to take on the role of a senior scientist it picks up some natural stubbornness in the training data.

[–] lxe 1 day ago
When it comes to difficult optimization/search problems, doing research in a single Claude/Codex thread is definitely a struggle. There are ways to bypass some of the pitfalls by creating a agentic swarm with hard guardrails such as context resets and changing the way the harness works with memory, etc.
[–] lxe 1 day ago
So you're not wrong in most of these conclusions, however this is very surface level use case for these tools when it comes to scientific research.

> I would never trust an AI to make a scientific conclusion, but they're very good at some things

> In this case, usually it will screw up and overfit, but it's a good smoke test.

> it's being used for tedious things that provide some value

I see a lot of comments like this about AI use in general, and I suspect there’s a kind of learned helplessness combined with anchoring to earlier experiences. Someone tries a model, encounters a few failures, and forms a fairly permanent view of what these systems can do.

My concern is that people sometimes turn an expectation of failure into a permanent ceiling on how much they’ll even experiment with these tools. Their limited use then keeps confirming their limited expectations.

EDIT: This came off as criticizing the user, but this is entirely to validate my own thesis that for quite a long time nobody has been able to crack the usability challenge when it comes to non-coding knowledge work for these harnesses. It's fascinating because it seems like it's such an easy problem to solve, but in reality it's a complex product problem.

[–] StableAlkyne 1 day ago
> this is very surface level use case for these tools

Correct. As of Q4 2026, in my experience they are only trustworthy for surface level use cases in the domain of computational chemistry / in-silico high throughout screening, unless you are working on a highly constrained, immediately verifiable and well-studied problem like protein docking or structure-property relations.

> anchoring to earlier experiences.

I have observed the models improving over time. I am basing my post on things at the level of Opus 5.5 / GPT-6.1 Sol / Fable 5.1

> Their limited use then keeps confirming their limited expectations.

Every time a new model comes out or a harness I use gets a new feature, I do try to push it until it breaks. A swarm of GPT Lunas at max context is highly effective at finding information or condensing highly disparate data sources; that wasn't even a thing a year ago in most harnesses.

But even the smartest models like Fable will get sidetracked, or make bad decisions because they do not have enough context of the problem domain. As of Q4 2026.

I'd put their autonomous intelligence in this particular domain at the level of a well-read first year grad student. Phenomenal at knowing things, but unable to question their own assumptions or invalidate their own work unless you hold their hand in the form of a prompt, skill, or direct instruction.

[–] lxe 1 day ago
Thanks for the clarification, this is such a spot on response that actually mirrors my experience considerably.

> unless you hold their hand in the form of a prompt, skill, or direct instruction.

The hand-holding and inability to execute automated tasks is a very well known failure mode.

The requirement for me to prod, redirect and continuously steer is the number one pitfall when I did the Muse Open Kernel challenge using a long-horizon search/improvement swarm (or whatever the term is... just don't call it 'RSI').

Using plateau avoidance techniques such as https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.07447 and building harnesses around these is what helped me.

[–] StableAlkyne 1 day ago
Very interesting article, I'm going to give it a read over lunch. Thanks!
[–] nyc_data_geek 1 day ago
Experimenting with these tools, checking their work and spending that time is not free of cost.
[–] flopsamjetsam 1 day ago
Literature search has been a big improvement for me. Though I have to check all the papers manually (of course, as I want to read them :), it's much more effective for me than searching via Scopus or Web of Science.
[–] knottn 1 day ago
Didn’t read your whole post, but the first point is wrong.

“Plotting with natural language: "Create a scatter plot of column A ver….”

No, the tedium of boilerplate code was a feature. Charts were generated by template so styling was consistent, making charts a bit more bland but easier to consume and check. You cannot achieve that same level of consistency or predictability with ai without reinventing a wheel. The models change too fast, and they all want to differentiate themselves for brand reasons, and the emphasis is on fast and easy, not on slow and foolproof, there’s no documentation of the work the way code provides documentation and an easy audit trail. You can restrict the ai by giving specs (use ggplot, use color template foo, create readable code with unit tests), but these are all similar tradeoffs as you might make with human labor too.

What llm do is to simply lower human value, not remove it entirely.

Just as results needed checking and replication before llm, they will continue to need checking and replication by humans. The humans won’t be compensated nearly as much, but humans are humans and so are not.

[–] StableAlkyne 1 day ago
> Charts were generated by template so styling was consistent, making charts a bit more bland but easier to consume and check

This is why reading the whole post is important :)

You seem to think I'm suggesting the use an image generator for plotting. Don't do that, it will screw that up, image models are not made for that. The use for AI here is to save 5 minutes writing the code to generate the plot, or to edit the style (again via code) of the plot.

If you do plt.scatter(x,y, c="blue", marker="o") that is a function call in Matplotlib. Its API notoriously sucks. Most Python plotting libraries just create convenience functions around this library because although the API (actually there are two and the documentation is not consistent on which to use) is hot garbage, and the documentation is labyrinthine, the plotting engine itself is powerful.

> What llm do is to simply lower human value, not remove it entirely.

The value in a plot is not the exact code used to make it (beyond the code being correct). The value is in the visualization giving the reader an "ah-ha" moment. I would much rather take the 5 minutes I save writing a function call, and use it to spend more time examining the plot itself.

[–] bicepjai 1 day ago
They are great computer interface assistants, but forget scientific conclusion would never trust then for committing in right git branch
[–] ch4s3 1 day ago
> Literature search, e.g. "Have there been any peer reviewed papers where they applied X method to Y domain"

This is something the LLMs are really good for, at least for compiler papers.

[–] jhbadger 1 day ago
And like everything LLM related this is something that people may have had bad experience with in the past but which work well now -- a year or two ago half those papers would be "hallucinated" non-existent papers but this rarely happens these days.
[–] tensor 1 day ago
I have a reference checker tool that I have the agent use to make sure nothing is hallucinated. It very often corrects small details like dates or authors on otherwise real references.