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points by hagbard_c 1 day ago | 0 comments
No, they did not choose that path unless you include beating up reporters to make sure no images of the 'protest' came out as part of that path. All they have done is add 'datacentres' to the OmniCause, this is also made clear by the rabble who they linked up with. Here's a quote from a newspaper article on this break-in, in Dutch:

Journalisten ter plaatse zijn geslagen om te voorkomen dat er beelden werden gemaakt van de actie, die georganiseerd is door Geef Tegengas. deze actiegroep wordt gesteund door klimaatbeweging Fossielvrij, Actiegroep ZO, DeGoedeZaak, Leitmotiv, XR en Scientists for Future.

That translates to *journalists were beaten up to keep images from the action from coming out. The action is organised by 'Geef Tegengas' (loosely translates to 'resist', literally 'give counter-gas') which is supported by 'Klimaatbeweging Fossielvrij', 'Actiegroep ZO', 'DeGoedeZaak' ('the good cause', i.e. the omnicause), Leitmotiv, XR (Extinction Rebellion, high-brow climate hysterics who regularly block motorways in the Netherlands) and 'Scientists for Future'.

Wanna bet they all pranced around with their fruit phones to record their 'rebellion'?

There's plenty of ways in the Netherlands to protest without beating up journos since a large fraction of the press tends to be on activists' side, double so for the public broadcaster NOS. They're just doing it this way because they want to be 'radical' and see themselves as 'revolutionaries' for 'the cause'. They're spoiled brats, the lot of them, playing Che Guevara in the knowledge that the Dutch authorities tend to let them off anyway.

[edit: deleted double post, that's what you get trying to post from a train in Germany where mobile networks should be declared endangered species. Quo Vadis, Wirtschaftswunder?]

[–] AnimalMuppet 1 day ago
But if the press tends to take their side, then why beat up the journo? Just to feel edgy?

Seems like bad tactics.

[–] hagbard_c 1 day ago
It is, bad tactics. They're caught in the 'revolutionary mood' which has set France on fire. Those journos are 'part of the establishment' after all. Well, yes, they are and also they tend to side with activists, two things can be true at the same time. There are exceptions to that rule, maybe they very selectively beat up reporters? Anyway, that's still outside the realm or 'normal protests'.
[–] tekla 1 day ago
Have you ever BEEN to a protest? Especially the ones where people are doing something clearly illegal?

The nicer people will tell you to fuck off with the cameras.

The less nicer people will break your camera and/or beat you.

[–] hagbard_c 1 day ago
Yes, I have been to protests. Protests are not illegal in the Netherlands, you can go very far - especially if you protest for the 'right causes' - before you're stopped by the authorities. Protesters want to be seen protesting, that is what they do it for.

What you're describing is not protest but vandalism. The first is allowed, the second is not. That is what I said after all, that this rabble did not 'walk the path'.

[–] tekla 1 day ago
But you see, it became very trendy since about 2016 or so to make "a riot is the language of the unheard" a thing again. And thus we get the 2020's protests.

These people don't care if its vandalism, its morally righteous to them, and so its not vandalism, its a humanistic protest.

[–] xg15 1 day ago
> Klimaatbeweging Fossielvrij, XR, Scientists for Future

Ah yes, "rabble".

And I have no idea what an "OmniCause" is.

[–] croisillon 12 hours ago
"omnicause" is the latest collective name for uncomfortable thoughts the far-right prefers to hide
[–] baal80spam 1 day ago
Yes. Rabble at best, Russia-sponsored rabble at worst.