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points by serioussecurity 1 day ago | 0 comments

I feel so much anger seeing these on the road.

A bad design that costs too much, the only people who bought these were ideologues committed to the vision of a man responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths, the gutting of the American state, and some of the most destructive politics of hate in living memory.

I celebrate their passing.

[–] qwerpy 1 day ago

Some of us just got one because it’s a fantastic self driving electric family car. I have a family and live somewhere nice, life’s too short to get so wound up about politics. And you’ll still be seeing them on the roads for many years to come :)

[–] bothers 1 day ago

This is a pretty heartless thing to say when one person's politics are repsonsible for making many lives so much shorter and more miserable.

[–] dozerly 1 day ago

Life is certainly too short to support nazis

[–] Uhhrrr 1 day ago

Not really relevant to this conversation.

[–] demo4567 1 day ago

completely relevant.

[–] georgespencer 1 day ago

I pity the family of someone who cannot get “wound up” about a man who gleefully dismantled USAID at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives,[^1] ploughed hundreds of millions of dollars into far right politics, and did a fucking nazi salute.

Outside of Mad Max it’s hard to conceive of a more dangerous car to be involved in a pedestrian collision. The cybertruck is a symbol of staggering ignorance and selfishness.

We’ll probably still see them on the roads for many years to come—and laugh at the lickspittle Elon toadies who gleefully bought them, knowing full well what they symbolize.

[^1] https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

[–] archagon 1 day ago

Hear, hear. As much as this man is a lightning rod for rage, it’s still only a tiny fraction of what he deserves for the atrocities he’s committed. I hope he rots in prison.

[–] wredcoll 1 day ago

It's easy to "not care about politics" when they aren't voting to take away your rights.

[–] demo4567 1 day ago

so privileged. politics is life.

[–] Henchman21 1 day ago

The rest of us assume you’re a supporter and collaborator because you’ve adopted the symbols of hatred. But hey life is too short amirite??

[–] skywhopper 1 day ago

Yeah, why worry about the politics you’re supporting with your money? Presumably you believe you aren’t a likely target for the hate and violence Musk spends that money you gave him advocating for. Must be nice not to have to worry about your or your family’s personal safety or emotional well-being. Thanks for the advice about “getting wound up” over politics.

[–] iugtmkbdfil834 1 day ago

<< Presumably you believe you aren’t a likely target for the hate and violence Musk spends that money you gave him advocating for.

I am confused. Are you suggesting that parent is a likely target based on their car purchasing habits? If so, US has some fun times ahead.

[–] sidibe 23 hours ago

It's surprising how out of the loop people are if you don't think a new Tesla is a political signal. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but there is a lot of doubt immediately if I see they have a cybertruck. And if you think that's the rough in the US I assure you in Europe they are likely to think even less of an owner.

[–] iugtmkbdfil834 22 hours ago

Eh, if everything is a political signal then nothing really is. If anything, I find it more problematic that there are people who explicitly think that way. Frankly, that way madness lies. I don't even even drive a Tesla, but that is based purely on its anti-customer-features, reliability and so on.

As for Europe, it is possible. I have not visited in a while so I will take your word for it.

[–] expedited123 1 day ago

Life's a lot easier when you just close your eyes and pretend the problem disappears, huh?

[–] sirshmooey 1 day ago

Have fun driving a Scarlet Letter, bro.

[–] howunfortunate 1 day ago

You...you do know who the "bad guys" were in the Scarlet Letter, right?

[–] sirshmooey 1 day ago

Probably a better question for Elon's harem of birth-mothers

[–] howunfortunate 1 day ago

Again, I'm begging you to go look up a plot summary. Hester is the hero protagonist!

[–] sirshmooey 1 day ago

Congratulations, you've rewired the metaphor.

[–] mrguyorama 1 day ago

The scarlet letter didn't have "Good guys" and "Bad guys". That was sort of an important theme of the book since the priest himself was the baby daddy.

[–] howunfortunate 1 day ago

The main message of the book is "Wearing your choices on your sleeve can be painful in a judgmental world, but is ultimately healing; attempting instead to appear spotlessly moral will tear you apart from inside out"

Now apply to this thread.

I mostly agree it's not as simple as good guys and bad guys, but if anyone's a bad guy it's the most judgmental townspeople and the priest who lets Hester take the full brunt of judgment while he pretends he's squeaky clean.

[–] qwerpy 1 day ago

Hahaha. This is too good. These hateful people are so caught up in their outrage that they don’t realize they’ve become the bad guys.

[–] iugtmkbdfil834 1 day ago

It is worse. They think their hatred is somehow justified.

[–] howunfortunate 1 day ago

Probably every third car in my area is a Tesla.

The drivers are like 98% East Asian or Indian. Like half the cars have a "new driver" or "baby on board" sticker.

Teslas are unpopular in rural areas.

So ironically I think the ideologues (on either side) are the only people NOT buying Teslas.

[–] badrequest 1 day ago

They're not driving cybertrucks, is the point.

[–] Whatarethese 1 day ago

I own one. I hate Elon and everything that he has become. I wanted an EV truck that can drive itself on my road trips.

[–] skywhopper 1 day ago

What you do matters more than what you say.

[–] Rohansi 1 day ago

Do you boycott every company with a CEO that you don't agree with politically? Musk is much more open about it than others but you'll find that most of them are fine with screwing over everyone for their own (personal+company) benefit. For example, pretty much every major ICE automaker lobbies against EVs, including ones that sell EVs. Most people would be better off with an EV. They don't need to be expensive (see BYD) and the charging situation would improve with higher adoption rates.

[–] howunfortunate 1 day ago

Agreed, so please spare us the virtue signaling and go start an EV company that makes better cars than Tesla

[–] htk 1 day ago

You sound very ideologue yourself.

[–] culi 1 day ago

Someone with a trillion dollars being an ideologue is different than a middle class person being one. Wealth is power and power brings with it ethical responsibilities. Always.

It's absolutely valid to expect more from politicians and people who hold power over our lives than we do from regular people.

[–] breznev 18 hours ago

I hope you find peace and a better use of your time

[–] pxmpxm 1 day ago

Either missing /s or you’re one of those “terminally online” people that the interwebs keeps telling me about.

[–] maxlin 1 day ago

This is nothing but comic villain energy. Sorry for whatever happened to you.