points by WarmWash 1 day ago | 0 comments
Flash-lite haiku luna
Flash sonnet tera
Pro Opus Sol
Argon Fable Astra
These are the (approximately) equivalent model classes between the labs
Experimental means not production, so liable to change in the near future if you decide to build on it.
Omni is a video editing model, and flash implies it's a lighter weight one than what they have/could have. The other labs don't have competing models here.
[–] andai 1 day ago
[–] WarmWash 1 day ago
Carbon is the next iteration (via RL training) of the Argon sized model.
[–] jimbob45 1 day ago
Wait are you trolling? Because I thought the answer was that Carbon is their successor to C++.
[–] andai 11 hours ago
Gemini 4 Carbon
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50276792
I remember the other one though. Looks like it's still going.
[–] conception 1 day ago
A B (not released) C
[–] lukeschlather 1 day ago
Carbon is to Argon as Mythos is to Fable.
[–] hirako2000 1 day ago
Carbon is to Aragon what Fable is to Mythos.
[–] knollimar 1 day ago
I thought carbon was smarter?
[–] lukeschlather 1 day ago
Yes, Carbon and Mythos are the secret super-smart models you can't use without an invitation and a million dollars.
[–] baq 1 day ago
Argon is not same tier as Astra and Fable. the upcoming, similarly unavailable Carbon maybe is.
[–] WarmWash 1 day ago
This would be by (suspected) parameter size, not benchmarked ability.
It's possible Argon/Carbon are pro sized, but given the internal rumblings and that it is based on a fresh pretrain, it makes most sense for it to be a "big" model.
Google did at one point have an "Ultra" sized model, but nothing more came of it after 1.5 Ultra.
Luna/Terra/Sol/Astra was a bit pretentious but at least the sizing makes sense. (I imagined the meeting... "Ok guys, we're getting mogged on naming... what's more epic than a Myth?" -"The SUN!")
Anthropic makes sense with the literary "scale" naming, mostly.
Is a Carbon bigger than an Argon though? Maybe it has to do with the atomic number?