points by em-bee 1 day ago | 0 comments
allow is not enough, it would have to be required. otherwise couples are still under pressure to let men work and let women take the leave.
[–] mjburgess 1 day ago
[–] em-bee 1 day ago
women who do not want to work are not forced to. this is about women who do want to work but are forced to take the full parental leave instead of sharing it equally with the father because men are pressured to not take any parental leave lest it affects their career.
the goal is to require men to take equal parental leave in order to remove that pressure and put women and men on a more equal position when it comes to children.
today women are considered a hiring risk because they might have children and take parental leave. if fathers were required to take parental leave as well, then the risk would be more similar for both.
[–] ilumanty 1 day ago
> if fathers were required to take parental leave as well, then the risk would be more similar for both
I wonder what the economic implications are when both parents take leave instead of just one (e.g. twice the overhead for finding temporary cover, short-term liquidity impact for employer and public benefit funds)
[–] em-bee 1 day ago
those are the economic implications for a society that wants to have children. the right for men to take parental leave already exists (in some countries at least). so the economic implications are already a reality. that being a problem is why men are under pressure. forcing leave makes sure that employers get to face the reality. and it puts businesses on equal footing, because now they all need to do that. as a business owner i am no longer at a disadvantage compared to other businesses if i allow men to take leave.
[–] walthamstow 1 day ago
> I've never met a mother who wanted to be in work full time.
This is as daft an argument as me saying "my wife is one so all women must be"
I've never met a mother who wanted to be in work full time. What exactly do zoom meetings, email threads, and spreadsheets get you in life?
I'm not one to say "captialism has gone too far", but perhaps in this case at least, isnt it mad to force average labour hours to be the same across sexes "just because" ?