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points by eranation 2 days ago | 0 comments

I was a skeptic. Couldn’t trick pangram yet.

You can't trick it with AI generated text, but can you trick it into calling something AI generated which isn't? From what I've seen these AI detection tools are very good at detecting AI generation, they're also very good at calling anything AI generated.

[–] mjdv 2 days ago

Pangram boasts an extremely low false positive rate, in contrast to other AI detection tools. This has matched my limited experience.

If you have text that you can prove is not AI-generated (e.g. it is demonstrably older than about 5 years) that gets an AI flag, you could try tweeting at the Pangram founder, I've seen screenshots of him offering bounties (admittedly mostly as a dare to claims he doesn't believe).

[–] Hoasi 2 days ago

Really? Pangram is very easy to bypass in written form.

[–] gunalx 1 day ago

Yes. Even as little as a "humanize and rephrast this to be more natural" prompt with high temperature on a uncommon model reduces the confidence greatly.

[–] dr_kiszonka 10 hours ago

And does it preserve the original meaning, including various nuances? I have never been able to trick Pangram so I am very curious of the details.

[–] buf 2 days ago

removed

[–] cheshire_cat 2 days ago

Seems not so simple after all. How would one even go about training a local model on their own writing voice?