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points by fuzzfactor 2 days ago | 0 comments
Just after I deployed a "currently patched" system yesterday and failed to uninstall Paint when I had the chance.

Normally have been 86-ing a number of annoying things such as OneDrive, but leaving Paint in place figuring it's got to still be harmless.

Creeping increases in attack vector when just the opposite is needed more than ever.

[–] onei 2 days ago
Some years ago, I ended up on a call with a support team guy, helping him under some parts of a system I worked on. He shared his screen, started drawing diagrams. It took me a whole 10 minutes to realise it was in paint, he was just that good at using it.

Turns out paint was the thing almost every customer had installed/had access to, so he worked to the lowest common denominator and got really good at using it. I guess now he'll need to find a new tool to astonish devs with.

[–] ethbr1 1 day ago
If you're in support across multiple customers, especially in regulated industries, you learn to rely on the minimum common denominator, which usually means OS utils.

And at the end of the day $2 and $2000 screwdrivers are both still screwdrivers.

[–] ndsipa_pomu 1 day ago
This is also why knowing the basics of "vi" is so useful on Linux/unix systems
[–] partomniscient 23 hours ago
...especially knowing how to save/exit without saving/quit, when it automatically opens up for some reason.
[–] joshspankit 1 day ago
Before MS, there was a time where it wasn’t possible to get a virus by receiving an email. Users had to click on the attachment. Email itself is a text protocol after all.

Then they added automatic HTML parsing of incoming emails, and the attackers cheered.

[–] stevekemp 1 day ago
Email may be text-based, but parsing MIME is a pain in the ass (speaking as somebody who wrote a console-based email client.)

You can go back to mutt's parsing, and CVE-1999-0940 for an old example. But I'm sure that's only one of many.

[–] znpy 2 days ago
86-ing?
[–] yakshaving_jgt 2 days ago
It comes from working in kitchens. It means to remove something from the menu, or otherwise make it unavailable.
[–] dboreham 1 day ago
Also seashells.
[–] SketchySeaBeast 1 day ago
86 seashells? I don't even know what do with the three seashells.
[–] Grimeton 1 day ago
Greetings and salutations!

I understood that reference.

[–] zdragnar 1 day ago
Surely a SketchySeaBeast could come up with uses for at least three seashells
[–] fuzzfactor 1 day ago
Traditionally tossing excess baggage overboard when the situation gets grim enough.

Like when a previously sturdy old sailing ship starts taking on water, for instance in the 18th century and beyond.

Numerical equivalent to "deep-six."