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points by solyin 2 days ago | 0 comments

Same. A lot of voices saying "I would totally buy..." and then an excuse comes up when it's time to actually buy. (no shade, I've been guilty of this myself)

[–] bpavuk 2 days ago

my sole excuse is price. I'd happily cough up anything below $1100 for this particular phone. anything above that is simply exorbitant. RAM went 5x over 2026, so I'm practically forced to not consider any hardware purchase at all, not even used, for now

[–] drnick1 2 days ago

It will probably go on sale soon close to your price point, as non-Apple phones typically do.

[–] microtonal 2 days ago

I'll wait a few months for prices to go down a little, but I'm excited to get one.

[–] JumpCrisscross 2 days ago

> my sole excuse is price

To be clear, I’m not criticizing anyone balking at a $1,600 phone. I’m expressing skepticism at marketing a GrapheneOS phone at that price point.

[–] HybridStatAnim8 2 days ago

Its not being marketed as a GrapheneOS phone. It is a Motorola phone that will come with MotorolaOS. It additionally meets the hardware security requirements for GrapheneOS, and can be flashed with it. There is a possibility preinstalled options will be available but nothing has been confirmed.

[–] sneak 2 days ago

I fail to see the logic in it being worth $1099 but not $2k.

If your max price point were $600 or something, sure, but once you’re above $1k what’s the difference? You already value it greatly.

[–] palata 2 days ago

So if you can pay 20k for a car, you may as well pay 100k, because you already want a car? I'm not sure I get the argument.

2k is two times 1k. There are many things that I would not buy for double the price.

[–] sneak 22 hours ago

He said the price being over his $1100 cap was what stopped him. It exceeded his cap by $499.

In your example where you were sold on a $20k car, would the car being $20,499 stop you from buying it?

[–] Zetaphor 2 days ago

Do you assume that beyond a certain threshold people just have infinite money?

[–] kakacik 2 days ago

Your sole excuse will disappear within few months, lets see how it works for your then

[–] bpavuk 1 day ago

well if I can finance it then it's alright. I strongly believe that this is a device for at least 10 years, so it's totally worth it

[–] tranq_cassowary 19 hours ago

Only 7 years of guaranteed updates.

[–] spankibalt 2 days ago

> A lot of voices saying "I would totally buy..." and then an excuse comes up when it's time to actually buy.

Yeah, well, to me flagship is a one-word descriptor for "overpriced and enshittified device for suckers". Just in this case, now that the OS seems to deliver, it's the hardware. If you don't offer 3.5 mm audio, active stylus, full-feature USB-C 3.x+, and a uSD slot with a good enough screen in a slab you can get lost. It's that simple.

[–] zrobotics 2 days ago

I mean, is there any phone left with a 3.5mm jack, SD card support, and decent specs?

Just those 2 alone disqualify a lot of the market. I'd like to have both, but I'm currently typing this on a pixel 9 with neither simply because the market isn't there for them.

[–] spankibalt 2 days ago

From 2025 onwards? Only Sony Xperia 1 VII/VIII or... the Ulefone Armor 28/29 Ultra. None of them have a stylus, none of them support GOS.

And Lenovo (Motorola)? For me, so far, nothing. Unless this or next year's successor to the Moto G Stylus 2025 model comes with a much better USB-C port (i. e. not just that cheap 2.0 garbage), runs on GOS, keeps the audio jack as well as the dedicated uSD slot, and improves the not-so-hot stylus.

[–] JCattheATM 2 days ago

It's definitely kind of weird, especially since so many users on HN have disposable incomes and are the types who genuinely believe they need a new macbook every year to keep up with web design.

[–] port11 2 days ago

Some us stay at home to raise our kids. Or have been layed off. Or are in lower-paid jobs. Or…

[–] JCattheATM 1 day ago

I'm not talking about people that can't afford it, but people that could easily afford it and still poopoo it while spending their money on objectively sillier things. Like a new Macbook every year.