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points by synalx 3 days ago | 0 comments

I think the heavily subsidized subscriptions are exactly for this purpose - the training data they generate is worth the high subsidy.

[–] jpardoe 2 days ago

They're almost certainly making a profit on subscriptions.

[–] cj9 1 day ago

Right, but they are also certainly looking to make higher profits overall by avoiding having to pay for large amounts of (confidential and/or private) training data. Most of what they have would never be for sale either.

[–] jpardoe 1 day ago

Seems smart.

[–] red-iron-pine 3 days ago

i mean openai basically said as much, no? it's free for all so that they can train the models better and get real world interaction data.

[–] cma 3 days ago

Yes, Altman called it the data flywheel in 2022.

[–] terramauthe 3 days ago

yeah, but in 2026 the interaction data of the average user isn't adding much to training. only the really exceptional users.

[–] cma 1 day ago

They can filter for the exceptional users, but the data flywheel is also about getting access to private codebases, not just the interaction in the chat.