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points by athrowaway3z 3 days ago | 0 comments

I didn't dig into Kimi's MaaS legalese, but i dont really understand how that knee-high fence is supposed to work long term.

All the service provider needs to do is provide the option to rent out VM's with access to the inference cards.

Have the customer provide the model.

Maybe provide a bit of a speedup, by letting the customer mount the model by hash.

Sure, that all sounded way too technical 10 years ago, and somebody would have said that's already too much annoyance to deal with for average customers.

Reluctantly i'd agree.

That was 10 years ago. Nowadays, with some proper docs, this entire set up can be up and running in 5 minutes.

[–] penagwin 2 days ago

In my own experience the vast majority of llm consumers would prefer to pay by token, especially for large (300B+) as either their usage is below the point a dedicated cluster is viable or it’s just a lot more hands on.

With Kimi k3 specifically you need something like 1.6TB of memory which... Well you can’t just use 8x H100’s, and per token pricing becomes extremely attractive at this size for most users.

[–] knollimar 3 days ago

Aren’t these only financially viable by sharing weights in some big setup?