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points by esalman 4 days ago | 0 comments

They also finally allowed moving the taskbar to any edge of the screen.

That's the one that made me ditch Win11 for Mint, a top panel + Plank Reloaded.

My entire UI workflow is top right orientated (menus, windows size/close buttons, docks) for muscle memory, so the Win10 stopped security updates forced me to switch.

Ironically a week later they extended security support for Win10.

[–] rf15 4 days ago

again. For some reason, they forbid it after setting the standard for decades themselves.

[–] accidc 4 days ago

It only too them 6 years. But still lacks the ability to set it to your desired width. Its coming sometime in the next 6 years (unless windows 12 come first, then you lose the ability to set the taskbar to the side and have ot restart the cycle).

[–] justsomehnguy 4 days ago

NB:

I'm still waiting for Mozilla to give back the option to delete MRUs from the Firefox navbar.

Oh, it's absolutely has nothing with how they push sponsored links there. Absolutely.

[–] wolvoleo 4 days ago

Pretty insane how a company that knocked out office and visual studio in the scope of a year or so now has problems making a task bar moveable.

[–] accidc 4 days ago

I have to use sharepoint on ms edge for work. Today I had to search something up an on my 27" monitor, I had 7 fixed rows of non-content on the top (including the tab bar and the locator bar) and 3 fixed rows at the bottom: last one being the windows taskbar that I still cant move as 26H2 hasn't been deployed.

The actual search results were a scrollable list with 5 rows visible of the content I was searching for.

I wonder what skills must one posses to rise to places that give one the authority to make such decisions? Are there incentives that drive these or are these borne of Kafkaesque bureaucracies? Does no one object to such monstrosities? Are the ones responsible so bereft of empathy and/or common sense? I know this is meandering and pointless but I wonder and struggle to understand the thought processes. This apathy, sure it presents itself in something so mundane but it permeates everything. i guess its the human condition.

[–] Gravityloss 4 days ago

Ah, this could be a great study in organization design! Conway's law suggests that the software architecture resembles the organization. So there might not be any designers making such decisions. Probably lots of organizations can't use each others' toolbars but are expected to add their own toolbar?

[–] gnabgib 4 days ago

Which year was Office (1988) and Visual Studio (1997) knocked out?

[–] wolvoleo 4 days ago

The late 90s. Office for dos is not what we know now. Office 98 was basically the same as what we have today, the improvements since then have been only incremental. And often worse like the ribbon. Visual studio came from this time too, they were really on a roll then.

Microsoft just stops investing in innovation once they take over a market. You saw it with IE, with office, with windows even.

[–] kalleboo 4 days ago

There was never an MS Office for DOS. The first version was for the Mac.

There was a Word for DOS, but Word for Windows was a port of Word for Mac. Excel started on the Mac (their DOS spreadsheet was called Multiplan). PowerPoint started out as a Mac product funded by Apple, which Microsoft acquired.

None of this can be described as "knocked out by Microsoft in a year".