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points by tlogan 5 days ago | 0 comments
Very interesting approach. Basically, you can no longer use Google Search as a way to discover and learn about a subject the old-school way.

I guess the point here is that Google thinks schools need to start using AI, and that all this "no AI in schools" talk is nonsense.

[–] swatcoder 5 days ago
> I guess the point here is that Google thinks schools need to start using AI, and that all this "no AI in schools" talk is nonsense.

More generously, it seems like Google just doesn't see a justification for maintaining an AI-free search platform alongside their AI-integrated vision for search.

For a smaller vendor in a competitive market, this decision wouldn't read like coercion. It would just be a roadmap statement that might draw some customers in and drive some towards competitors. You would expect a business to be able to make that kind of decision (a prima facie reasonable one) about how they'll invest in their products and the support infrastructure that surrounds them.

What this story really exposes is how dependent schools have been made on Google specifically and how the idea of independently making choices against their roadmap feels infeasible. It feels like a monopoly to administrators and the public even if it isn't formally marked as such by regulatory agencies.

That itself is worth more people thinking about.

[–] walt_grata 5 days ago
that is an absolutely repugnant take from anyone at Google (I will not attribute this to a legal entity that cannot think, a human being made this call and is accountable for it). They are not educators and should have absolutely zero say in how schools do things.
[–] brainwad 4 days ago
They don't; they do however have say on how they develop their own products, and they want to stuff search full of AI. At least they let schools opt out of it easily.

"You don't have to use AI, but if not you can't stay here".

[–] walt_grata 4 days ago
They absolutely try to. Who do you think is lobbying for increased technology in classrooms?
[–] brainwad 4 days ago
Trying to sell your product is fine. Google has no more "say" in how schools do things than say Pearson does. They provide educational tools, which schools can choose to buy or not.
[–] watwut 5 days ago
Google thinks that will be more profitable if they force schools to use AI. They do not think "no AI in schools" talk is nonsense, they think "no AI in schools" is bad for their bottom line, somehow.
[–] miltonlost 5 days ago
Google thinks forcing schools to use AI to fuel search will give them great cash. You have far too kind a view on what Google hopes AI will do to schools and not nearly a cynical economic one.
[–] 10111001 5 days ago
> Very interesting approach. Basically, you can no longer use Google Search as a way to discover and learn about a subject the old-school way.

If by "interesting" you mean "abusive and coercive."

> I guess the point here is that Google thinks schools need to start using AI, and that all this "no AI in schools" talk is nonsense.

Explain that more please: whose talk is "nonsense"? Google's? Parents'? Schools'?

'Cause it sounds Google is saying this:

> You silly parents and educators, you thought you set educational policy for your students? No, we actually do. Your choices will conform to our business plans of the moment, or we will make your life so painful and difficult that you will "consent" to our demands.

> Did we mention our motto is "don't be evil"? We live our values every day.

[–] andrekandre 5 days ago
well, they gotta get those kids hooked on ai while they're young you know
[–] gmueckl 5 days ago
Of course. They have a bridge^W^WAI to sell to you.

This is attempted coercion, plain and simple.

[–] varjag 5 days ago
KPIs have to be met
[–] gmueckl 5 days ago
Is it this time of year at Google?
[–] ceejayoz 5 days ago
Isn't it always that time of year at a large corp?
[–] gmueckl 4 days ago
There's sometimes a lull after new goals have been set and the next review is just that little bit further in the future.
[–] throwitaway222 5 days ago
I mean technically I didn't even have Google search when I went to school.
[–] Forgeties79 5 days ago
There are a lot of things we didn’t have when we were younger that are far more necessary today than they were then.